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Grammar police help

Postby iamroch » Wed 06 Jun, 2012 08:20 am

My cousin-in-law posted on Facebook that her daughter won an event and said, "the trophy is taller than me!"

Her mom posted this reply: "Taller than "I"......ughhhhhhh"

Is that correct? What is the correct usage there?

Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Grammar police help

Postby KareNin » Wed 06 Jun, 2012 08:48 am

Back in the Dark Ages, when English teachers were still teaching grammar and punctuation and spelling, I was taught that in order to know whether to use "me" or "i" correctly, all you have to do is supply a verb and see if it makes sense.

"the trophy is taller than me is" ?

"the trophy is taller than me am" ?

The trophy is taller than I am" ? <------DING DING DING We have a winner!
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Re: Grammar police help

Postby Momma Snider » Wed 06 Jun, 2012 09:18 am

That's the way I learned, too. To avoid sounding funny, I would include the verb, because "The trophy is taller than I" sounds affected, even though it's correct.

You know the one that bugs me, though? A whole lot of people get the "I" and "me" confused, and tend to use "I" because it sounds more proper, even when it's wrong: "She came to visit Rocky and I." I can let that slide, but it gets much, much worse when they say, "She came to Rocky and I's house." I've heard that phraseology an awful lot lately.

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Re: Grammar police help

Postby iamroch » Wed 06 Jun, 2012 10:32 am

I was thinking along those lines about adding the verb, but like Momma said, it sounds affected. In a few years it won't matter anyway, all our writing will be "teh trofee be tlr then myself".
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Re: Grammar police help

Postby KareNin » Wed 06 Jun, 2012 11:23 am

:lol:

I was going to say the exact same thing as you did, Momma! Almost word for word! (Except I would have said Tom instead of Rocky.)

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*the phrase "you guys" connotes a passel of friends of both genders, and has been ingrained into my casual vocabulary so long that trying to correct it at this point would be futile and crazy-making for all concerned.
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Re: Grammar police help

Postby Eric's Fat Brother » Wed 06 Jun, 2012 11:47 am

In this particular instance, I think the correct answer is, "Shut up and stop nagging me about my grammar!"

But where it really comes into play is where the sentence means two different things depending on how you say it. For example:

"John likes Lucy more than me."

Technically, that means that John likes Lucy more than John likes me. But it often gets used to mean John likes Lucy more than I like Lucy.

"Hey, why isn't Lucy here? John said you guys were going to invite her."
"Yeah, John likes Lucy more than me."

In that context, you'd probably understand what the intent is. But that's why, in situations like that, I do what Momma said: I would always say, "John likes Lucy more than I do." Because "John likes Lucy more than me" is wrong, and "John likes Lucy more than I" sounds ridiculous and confusing.
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Re: Grammar police help

Postby KareNin » Wed 06 Jun, 2012 01:39 pm

Precisely.

But I have my reservations about this John guy. I don't know how ANYONE could like Lucy more than they like you, Jeffy. That's just ridiculous.
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Re: Grammar police help

Postby Momma Snider » Wed 06 Jun, 2012 02:03 pm

Unless Lucy is John's mom.

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Re: Grammar police help

Postby iamroch » Wed 06 Jun, 2012 03:43 pm

Lucy is my dog, and I like her more than Jeff.

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Re: Grammar police help

Postby KareNin » Wed 06 Jun, 2012 07:45 pm

That seems terribly short-sighted and exclusive of you, iamroch. What if Jeff brought you your slippers and greeted you happily when you came home from work? I'm pretty sure his charm would grow on you. He's such a teddy bear.
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Re: Grammar police help

Postby iamroch » Thu 07 Jun, 2012 08:39 am

I don't get any slippers, but when I walk in the door her whole body is wriggling with joy and as soon as I sit down she climbs up and licks my face and ears. I don't think Jeff can match that, and if he could, I don't want to see it!
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Re: Grammar police help

Postby Momma Snider » Thu 07 Jun, 2012 09:32 am

There really is nothing like a dog to make a person feel appreciated and loved!

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Re: Grammar police help

Postby KareNin » Thu 07 Jun, 2012 04:00 pm

Well, presumably Momma Snider has been the recipient of snuggles and kisses from both JeffyJ and of dogs, so I am happy to defer to her judgement on this one.

But I submit that both Jeff and a dog are capable of massive quantities of love. So there is that.
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Re: Grammar police help

Postby SDR » Thu 07 Jun, 2012 04:58 pm

While JeffyJ is undoubtedly capable of mass quantities of snuggles and kisses, I'll have agree with iamroch. :)

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Re: Grammar police help

Postby Momma Snider » Mon 11 Jun, 2012 05:21 pm

Speaking of grammar or punctuation or something, a friend of mine recently posted this question on Facebook: "What kind of status' on Facebook bother you the most?"

I wanted to answer, "Those with misplaced apostrophes," but I didn't.

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Postby SDR » Mon 11 Jun, 2012 07:36 pm

Momma Snider wrote:Speaking of grammar or punctuation or something, a friend of mine recently posted this question on Facebook: "What kind of status' on Facebook bother you the most?"

I wanted to answer, "Those with misplaced apostrophes," but I didn't.


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Re: Grammar police help

Postby KareNin » Tue 12 Jun, 2012 06:36 am

Or those posted by people who don't know the rules for pluralizing nouns. What is so hard about "add an 's,' unless the word ends in an 's,' in which case, add 'es.' "? One status, several statuses.

I hope the complicated punctuation on that sentence doesn't trip me up and negate everything I said, by revealing my ignorance.
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Re: Grammar police help

Postby iamroch » Tue 12 Jun, 2012 09:08 am

Are you sure it isn't "statusi"?
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Postby SDR » Tue 12 Jun, 2012 09:12 am

iamroch wrote:Are you sure it isn't "statusi"?


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Re: Grammar police help

Postby Momma Snider » Tue 12 Jun, 2012 09:39 am

I have to admit, I went to the dictionary to make sure. One entry said you don't pluralize it, because there's no such thing as more than one status anyway, but that was obviously written before Facebook. One thing I WAS sure of is that it's not status'.


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