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Postby InOregon » Tue 20 May, 2008 12:43 pm

I have to give a talk on tithing this Sunday. The bishop, when he asked, said he felt everyone had their own testimony of tithing and that's what he wants me to speak about. I know what mine is, but I was wondering if anyone had a tithing-related story about how they developed a testimony of tithing that I might be able to use.

As much as we love those faith-promoting stories about how someone paid their tithing and then won the (church-approved, of course) lottery (or something like that), I'm actually more interested in hearing about people who struggle to pay tithing. Maybe how it's a sacrifice, or what non-monetary blessings come from paying tithing.

I'll be honest and admit that tithing is something I've really struggled with at times. Am I the only one? You don't have to post your response here for all to see. You can PM it to me or email it to me (jhpool at gmail dot com)and I swear I won't reveal any names or other info here or from the pulpit.

Maybe it would even be more helpful to share what you'd like to hear about tithing. I've heard all the tithing scriptures before and watched the Lorenzo Snow video a dozen times, but I can't say any of those have strengthened my testimony of tithing. (Sorry L. Snow and scriptures!)

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Postby Mrs. Goofy Gordon » Tue 20 May, 2008 12:56 pm

I too have had times when I struggled with tithes.

When I first read this , my first thought was when I was about to leave on my mission. I lived in SLC and was from CA, my parents divorced and only mom a member( converts, I was 15 at the time we joined together) with my two younger siblings at home. I was working full time and paying tithes, but all there was to prepare for and purchase, the $$ I had saved and was saving seemed to get tapped out fast. In meeting with my bishop, he said he knew what my mom could help with and that I was doing my part, not to worry as the ward was going to make up the difference. This was in 1979, missions were not the $$$ shelled out today, but to me and my single mom that was the lottery and we felt blessed from having did what we were supposed to. We were also able to go through the temple together, as I left for my mission with my best friend and her mom as our escorts. My best friend ( she still is ) introduced us to the church.
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Postby Card » Tue 20 May, 2008 01:49 pm

Well, of course I've had times where I'd pay my tithing and somehow just have the perfect amount to sustain my living, but I swear that I receive a blessing of stuff lasting longer than they normally would. Like, I hardly ever have to buy new sneakers. They always last ...like forever. Well, for years and years, anyway. The current ones I have were purchased 7 years ago. And I use them enough that they should be gone, but they aren't. So, anyway, that's one way that I have personally felt blessed. Heavenly Father knows that I don't like to shop, so he blesses me so I don't need to so often.

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Postby InOregon » Tue 20 May, 2008 01:54 pm

Card, I love that answer.

Mrs. G, with a son going on a mission in less than 3 years, I'm sure the sacrifices we make to pay tithing will help out.
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Postby ImAdhis » Tue 20 May, 2008 03:21 pm

I don't have what you're looking for. Tithing is one of the very few things "I know for sure" and have participated in throughout the great spectrum of abundance my wallet has experienced. I LOVE tithing!

On a side story: I was 8 or 9 when one Sunday morning, before leaving for church, I was crying uncontrollably. My dad asked me what was wrong.

<i>"I don't have any money for tithing!" </i>

My dad explained to me that I didn't need to give tithing because I didn't have any money.

<i>"But I want to give something!"</i>

I distinctly remember him hiding a smile before comforting me with a hug.

That is all I remember.

I realize this still doesn't help your talk preparation a bit.
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Postby Mrs. Goofy Gordon » Tue 20 May, 2008 04:14 pm

We have a son putting in papers this summer, I know from others, blessings come from them just being out there and help those at home with things like tithes etc,,,,,,, we all have our struggles with different things.
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Postby Momma Snider » Tue 20 May, 2008 06:27 pm

All the time my kids were growing up, we didn't have insurance except for a year or so at the time Laura was born. (She was #5 in 6 1/2 years.) Most of the rest of the time all of us were blessed with remarkably good health, so we didn't have to spend much on doctors. I really felt like that was a tithing blessing, since we lived on very little money but always kept up with the tithing.

One sermon I'd like to preach is about teaching kids to pay tithing. I know I've mentioned it on another thread, but in my Primary class of Valiant 9s last year, only one out of 13 had ever paid tithing. Some were newly baptized, so I understand that, although the fact that they'd never even heard of it seem odd. The rest were kids of very active families, but they'd never thought of it. So I think you should tell the congregation to give their kids an allowance, whether they want to tie it to chores or not is up to them, but give them a little money so they can learn to pay tithing. I would suggest giving it already broken down so they have the change available without having to buy something first.

When my kids were in high school, I would go to the bank on payday and get $160 in 1s, 5s, and 10s, because the kids got allowance based on age and needs. For smaller kids, if they're getting $5, give four 1s and four quarters, and so on.

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Postby Benny » Tue 20 May, 2008 11:08 pm

nothing outof the blue, but paying your tithing makes you a worthy member able to go to the temple. If you're having money troubles, i find the temple and an eternal perspective helps a it. You also get church financial aid if you're really in trouble. Awesome blessings without anything particularly out of the ordinary or supernatural. While I myself have never really noticed anything super spiritual and whatnot, the other blessings I listed have been more than enough for me
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Postby Karen » Thu 22 May, 2008 04:55 pm

You've probably heard this before, but the thought is comforting: tithing is one commandment in which you can be perfect all the time. With all the watching of thoughts, words, and deeds, it's nice to know there's ONE little area in which I can be perfect without a whole lot of concentrated effort.

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Postby Ishmael » Sun 25 May, 2008 08:11 pm

I have a coworker who is Baptist and also gives 10% to his church. I have discussed tithing with him on several occasions, and one thing he opened my eyes to is the fact that Mormons use the word incorrectly.

"Tithe" is a noun and a verb, and "tithing" is the gerund or present participle. In the Church we use "tithing" for all three. Usually it works, but when we say things like "paying tithing" it sounds really weird to people who use the word properly, which is most other churches.

I'm being uber-nitpicky, I know, but I can't hear people talk about tithing at church anymore without thinking about it.

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Postby WiseNLucky » Mon 26 May, 2008 02:21 pm

ImAdhis wrote:I don't have what you're looking for. Tithing is one of the very few things "I know for sure" and have participated in throughout the great spectrum of abundance my wallet has experienced. I LOVE tithing!


Me too. My wife goes so far as to say I have a superstition of tithing, and not just a testimony.
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Postby GenAdFemale » Mon 26 May, 2008 02:26 pm

Pffffft, all you perfect people.


InO, how did your talk go? Did you eat the cookie? Did you lick the cookie?

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Postby InOregon » Mon 26 May, 2008 06:59 pm

I sniffed, licked and nibbled the cookie!

How did your talk go? I wanted to text you but I figured by the time I rolled my hiney out of bed and into texting mode, you were probably done with church and home enjoying your potato salad.
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Postby GenAdFemale » Mon 26 May, 2008 09:23 pm

I didn't get to eat during my talk, sadly. And I spoke last, but the guy who spoke before me went WAY LOOOOOONG, and remembering how people do not like for the meeting to go over, I cut cut cut way back on my talk. And I talked fast.

Then I ate my potato salad with proverbial relish. I don't eat actual relish.

TMI alert. Do not read any further if you don't like potty talk.

Oh, and I had to use the ladies' room REALLY bad before my talk. So I up and left. From off the stand. I didn't want to be that kind of uncomfortable while giving a talk. I would have liked to think that no one noticed my departure, but the guy speaking was BORING. I would have watched me leave the stand if I were in the congregation.

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Postby Karen » Tue 27 May, 2008 11:10 am

That's cool you got to speak last. I was honestly starting to believe it was official church policy to end with a male speaker because I've never seen a woman end the meeting. That always bothered me. Maybe it's because I'm female and relate better to female speakers, but I think by and large women are better speakers and I'd like to end meetings on a high note.

Of course, my ward is particularly weird in that department. I have not been asked to speak in church and I don't think I will be because my husband is not active. My ward likes to have complete couples speak, with the wife first and the (dull) husband finishing.

I apologize to you male speakers who may be extremely uplifting and the perfect way to end Sacrament meeting. Please visit my ward! We need your kind!

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Postby GenAdFemale » Tue 27 May, 2008 11:17 am

Karen wrote:That's cool you got to speak last. I was honestly starting to believe it was official church policy to end with a male speaker because I've never seen a woman end the meeting. That always bothered me. Maybe it's because I'm female and relate better to female speakers, but I think by and large women are better speakers and I'd like to end meetings on a high note.

Of course, my ward is particularly weird in that department. I have not been asked to speak in church and I don't think I will be because my husband is not active. My ward likes to have complete couples speak, with the wife first and the (dull) husband finishing.

I apologize to you male speakers who may be extremely uplifting and the perfect way to end Sacrament meeting. Please visit my ward! We need your kind!


I was beginning to think the same thing. But since our ward boundaries got rearranged and we got put into a different ward, things have changed. Women speak mostly last in our "new" (nearly 2 years) ward and rarely do couples speak together, unless they are new move-ins. Women also say the opening prayer, which I always heard was traditional for a priesthood holder to do. We are the black sheep of the stake I think, but that's fine with me. Our ward probably has more older single women in it and fewer cookie-cutter Mormon families in it than the rest of the stake combined, too.

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Postby Eric's Fat Brother » Tue 27 May, 2008 11:19 am

I will have to check my handbook to see what it says about sacrament meeting talks, but I do know that there is an official Church policy discouraging the practice if having husband and wife give the opening and closing prayers in sacrament meeting, specifically because it excludes single people and people with inactive or non-LDS spouses. In our ward, we have applied that same logic to speaking, so we don't have husband/wife speakers more than once a month or so.

Of course, we've also had someone get offended that we asked his or her spouse to speak and didn't ask him or her, so sometimes you can't win.
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Postby InOregon » Tue 27 May, 2008 11:33 am

I was the concluding speaker and the first speaker was a single woman. FWIW.
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Postby Lowdoggy Dogg » Tue 27 May, 2008 11:36 am

Karen wrote:That's cool you got to speak last. I was honestly starting to believe it was official church policy to end with a male speaker because I've never seen a woman end the meeting. That always bothered me. Maybe it's because I'm female and relate better to female speakers, but I think by and large women are better speakers and I'd like to end meetings on a high note.

Of course, my ward is particularly weird in that department. I have not been asked to speak in church and I don't think I will be because my husband is not active. My ward likes to have complete couples speak, with the wife first and the (dull) husband finishing.

I apologize to you male speakers who may be extremely uplifting and the perfect way to end Sacrament meeting. Please visit my ward! We need your kind!


This is very interesting. I agree that many women are better speakers.

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Postby Karen » Tue 27 May, 2008 11:38 am

Well this is all very encouraging! Thanks for sharing!


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